The Yankees used a lot of youth in 2022 that effectively kept them in the playoff race. Calling on Oswaldo Cabrera (who has graduated off this list with 154 at bats) and Oswald Peraza to provide quality at bats and fielding and Ron Marinaccio, Greg Weissert, JP Sears (Before Sears was traded he started 2 games for the Yankees and pitched 22 innings) and Clarke Schmidt to provide quality innings out the bullpen. I suspect Marinaccio, Weissert, Deivi Garcia, Luis Gil, Peraza and (hopefully) Estevan Florial will graduate from this list very soon. The Yankees are also front runners to sign Brandon Mayea, an outfielder out of Havana, Cuba in the upcoming 2022-23 international amateur signing period. I believe he would be in the Yankees top 20 prospects once he signs.
As is the norm for the Yankees, some of these prospects will be traded away to provide a boost either before or at the MLB trade deadline. The Yankees have a lot of interesting names at the lower levels and the upper levels are about to burst with talent that could help a major league team. The bottom of the Top 50 is very interchangeable with a lot of very young prospects that could rise quickly in the farm system.
Yankees MiLB affiliates:
Scranton Wilkes-Barre RailRiders – Triple-A
Somerset Patriots – Double-A
Hudson Valley Renegades – High-A
Tampa Tarpons – Single-A
Florida Complex League Yankees – Rookie
Dominican Summer League Yankees – Rookie
Tier 1: Players with high expectations of both making the majors and playing at an All-Star level for a number of years
Tier 2: Players with an above-average expectation of making the majors and being a solid contributor
Tier 3: Players with an average expectation of making the majors and being a solid contributor
Tier 4: Players who have the potential of making the majors, or have a high likelihood of making the majors but providing minimal impact (e.g. middle reliever, low-ceiling UT guys)
Tier 5: Players of interest, worth keeping an eye on, who have an outside chance of making their team’s 40-man roster
*= signifies member of 40-man roster
Levels listed for each player are the highest levels player reached in 2022
1. Anthony Volpe, SS, 21, Triple-A
Volpe checks all the boxes with a plus hit tool, advanced approach, plus power and plus speed having above-average grades on all five tools. He has the makings of a 20-20 plus player and a 2023 MLB debut isn’t out of the question. I believe he will be in the major leagues full time in 2024. He can play defense, but for me, he should be playing second base. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see his arm being strong enough on an everyday basis to stay at shortstop.
2. Austin Wells, C, 23, Double-A
With impressive pop from the left side, Wells crushed 20 homers between Tampa, Hudson Valley, and Somerset in 2022 while hitting a combined .277 with 17 doubles and 16 steals. Wells has no glaring hole to his game. He uses the whole field and the ball jumps off his bat with good loft to his swing. For a catcher, Wells has very good speed. There’s no doubt he has a big league bat, but there’s doubt he can stick at the catcher position. A move to corner outfield or first is very possible with Wells, but we will see if a move happens at the upper levels very soon.
3. Jasson Dominguez, OF, 19, Double-A
Dominguez reached Double-A in 2022 hitting .273 with 16 home runs, 23 doubles and 37 steals between Tampa, Hudson Valley and Somerset. More impressive was his 72 walks and 128 strikeouts. Dominguez has the potential for above-average tools across the board as he exhibits a smooth stroke, tremendous bat speed and strength from both sides of the plate. He shows a great feel for the barrel of the bat and a mature, disciplined approach, showing he should hit for power and average. He also owns above-average speed which allows him to make an impact on the bases and 30-30 potential may be within reach. Strikeouts could be a problem as he goes up levels, but I believe he will adjust.
4. Oswald Peraza*, SS/2B, 22, MLB
Peraza has some of the best all-around tools among Yankees infield prospects. He was called upon to fill in the infield in 2022 and he did an admirable job. Peraza has quality bat-to-ball skills and controls the strike zone well, allowing him to make consistent line-drive contact from the right side of the plate. He generates some of the highest exit velocities in the system and could develop more power while making good use of his plus speed to steal plenty of bases. Peraza will be in the Bronx full-time as soon as this upcoming season and could have four plus tools once he’s fully developed.
Oswald Peraza’s first career home run! pic.twitter.com/zoLDcyf4C9
— Talkin’ Yanks (@TalkinYanks) October 4, 2022
5. Everson Pereira*, OF, 21, Double-A
Pereira has some swing-and-miss, but I like the bat, power and speed. Pereira hit .277 and crushed 14 homers, 17 doubles, 9 triples and 21 steals in 102 games (401 at bats) in 2022 between the Hudson Valley and Somerset. He will need to cut down on his strikeouts some and put the ball in play more. Pereira has 20/20 potential and good tools, and I don’t think him seeing the Bronx in 2023 is out of the question. Some scouts like Pereira more than Dominguez.
6. Spencer Jones, OF, 21, Single-A
Jones, who ended the season with Tampa, generates plenty of bat speed and has the potential to hit for average with hard contact producing solid power. If he can learn to lift the ball more often without sacrificing contact, he could truly break out and fly up prospect list. Jones is extremely athletic with good speed for his size and maybe able to swipe some bags at the upper levels. Across his first 25 pro games, Jones hit .344/.425/.538 with four homers and 12 RBI. A move to first base where he played in college could be likely, but the Yankees will try and keep him in the outfield.
7. Trey Sweeney, SS, 22, Double-A
Sweeney shows good bat to ball skills and the ability to hit the ball out of the park with really good control of the zone and good power. He maybe a power over average player as he will rack up strikeouts at advanced levels. He’s a pretty heady player too, using his speed to take the extra base. His smartness on the base paths leading to 19 doubles and 31 steals in 2022. He’s not very quick at shortstop and he’s got long actions, leading to a move to third base is very possible.
8. Roderick Arias, SS, 18, Rookie (DSL)
Arias was the top international prospect in the class of 2022. There’s a lot to like about the teenager at the plate as he exhibits above-average bat-to-ball skills and strike zone awareness, showing good plate discipline and not swing and miss often. Arias has power from both sides of the plate, especially from the right side, and also owns good opposite-field power from the left side, his overall package could develop into a plus-plus hitter. On the bases, Arias shows very good anticipation and awareness and his speed should translate to enough stolen bases to make him a good threat on the bases. He struggled some in the DSL having a wrist injury that hampered him. Arias will have to work on his defense, making 13 errors in 52 attempts, most which were on bad throws. He has future stud written all over him and should be number 1 on this list before long if things pan out!
9. Luis Gil*, RHP, 24, MLB
Gil made a lone spot start in the majors, then was optioned back to Triple-A where he exited a mid-May start. It was revealed shortly after that he required Tommy John surgery, ending his 2022 campaign and likely a solid chunk of 2023. When he’s healthy, he is the most electric pitcher in the system. His big arm helps him regularly hit 95-98 mph with his four-seam fastball. Gil’s room for growth is with his off-speed pitches: honing his solid slider and gaining trust in his changeup while improving his command. This will cement him as a starting pitcher moving forward. I think the Yankees give him more time to develop as a starter, but he may wind up as a dynamic late-inning reliever or closer. Gil has resumed playing catch in October and is on track with the Tommy John surgery rehab.
10. Clayton Beeter, RHP, 24, Double-A
Beeter, acquired from the Dodgers for Joey Gallo in August, looks like a steal for Brian Cashman. Before coming over to the Yankees system, Beeter struggled with a 5.57 ERA and 88 strikeouts in 16 starts (53.1 innings) with the Tulsa Drillers and then in 7 starts (26 innings) for Somerset. Beeter had 41 strikeouts and a 2.08 ERA and opponents hit just .176 off him. Looks like the Yankees coaching unlocked something in him. Beeter has a pair of pitches that grade as above-average when at their best a fastball that sits at 92-97 mph, and a high-spin low-80s power curveball. He also owns a plus mid-80s slider and a solid low-80s changeup with some sink and fade. Beeter has exhibited fringy control at times, and his delivery may not be conducive to throwing more strikes. If he can’t make it as a starter, he has the stuff to become a high-leverage reliever.
JUST CALL HIM DARTH BEETER@Yankees No. 9 prospect Clayton Beeter’s night:
5⃣IP | 0⃣R | 7⃣Ks (78 pitches/51 strikes) pic.twitter.com/J52oElgyro
— Somerset Patriots (@SOMPatriots) September 17, 2022
11. Randy Vasquez*, RHP, 24, Double-A
Vasquez was placed on the 40 man roster this past November. Vasquez exhibits good command of all his pitches a fastball in the low to mid 90s, a above average curveball with good spin and a average changeup. He’s a mid to back end rotation piece, and he definitely can be moved to the bullpen. A mid to late season call up is in the cards for Vasquez, and it would not surprise me if he’s called up as a reliever in the 2023.
12. Will Warren, RHP, 23, Double-A
The Yankees eighth round selection in the 2021 draft, Warren reached Double-A in his first full season with the organization. The hard throwing right hander is armed with a mid-to-high 90s two-seam fastball that has a lot of movement, a filthy sweeping slider, and a decent changeup. Between Hudson Valley Renegades and Somerset Patriots, his numbers were pretty solid: a 9-9 record, 3.91 ERA in 26 starts, and 125 strikeouts in 129 innings. Warren has the looks of a draft steal with a future as a mid rotation start or a long reliever.
13. Keiner Delgado, SS, 18, Rookie (DSL)
Delgado had a break out 2022 campaign, drawing comparisons to Houston Astros second baseman Jose Altuve because of his size and speed. I don’t want to damper those comparisons, because Delgado is still years away. He was named to the Dominican Summer League All-Star team after slashing .310/.504/.506 with 3 home runs, 16 doubles, 3 triples and 34 stolen bases to go along with 58 BB and 28 Ks in 54 games. Walking more than you strikeout is extremely impressive, but having over double the walk rate of your strikeout rate is rare. He profiles really well since he never chases, barely strikes out, and has displayed good power. At 5’8″, 145 pounds, hopefully, he fills out his frame a little more and can start to tear the cover off the ball in the Complex and Low-A levels in 2023. I’m a huge fan of Delgado and I believe he has a chance to shoot into the top five before very long. He could be a lower-end top 100 prospect within the next year or so, I’d even argue Delgado is the best prospect on this list, showing unbelievable upside and great plate discipline at such a young age.
— Keiner Delgado (@KeinerDelgado1) November 17, 2022
14. Yoendrys Gomez*, RHP, 23, Double-A
Gomez underwent Tommy John Surgery in August 2021, and he came back in June of 2022. Between FCL, High-A Hudson Valley Renegades, and Double-A Somerset Patriots, his numbers were solid with a 2.49 ERA, 49 strikeouts in 47 innings (15 starts). He owns a high spin rate on his good mid 90s fastball, an above average curveball and slider. He needs to pitch, since he’s missed a lot of time with injuries. He’s been around since 2017 and still hasn’t logged 150 innings in his career. Gomez is very exciting despite health and control issues. Added to the 40-man roster in 2020, he could see the Bronx this year.
15. Drew Thorpe, RHP, 22, College
The Yankees 2nd round pick in 2022, Thorpe went 10-1 with a 2.32 ERA and was second in the nation with 149 strikeouts in 104.2 innings while at Cal Poly in 2022. This earned him being named the Big West Conference Pitcher of the Year. He has a strong, durable frame and throws three pitches for strikes with plus control. Thorpe’s 81-84 mph changeup is a plus-plus pitch, his 82-83 mph slider isn’t far behind. His fastball is only 89-93 mph, and raises some concerns that it will be below average. He has a very short, simple arm action that he repeats extremely well which results in plus command and control, evidenced by just a 6.3 percent walk rate in college this past season. His fastball might limit his ceiling, but it’s enough to make him a back-end starter. With his projectable 6’4” frame, he could be the ideal pitcher for Matt Blake to work with since he has very good control, very good secondary pitches, and plenty of room to grow and build his velocity.
16. Antonio Gomez, C, 21, Single-A
Gomez has plus raw power at the plate and is willing to work the count. Sometimes, he gets pull happy and has issues turning on pitches and produces weak ground balls when he does. He’s at least a backup catcher because of his defense, and if the bat plays, he has a chance to become an everyday player who produces 15-20 home runs a year. Gomez is one of the best defensive catchers in all of minor league baseball.
17. Jhony Brito*, RHP, 24, Triple-A
Like Vasquez, Brito was placed on the 40 man roster this past November. He was a breakout star this season, leading Yankees farmhands in wins (11) and ERA 2.96 (70-or-more innings) while ranking third in innings and 11th in strikeouts. Brito began the season going 5-2 with a 2.36 ERA in eight starts with Somerset, and then he was promoted to Triple-A on June 1 and was 6-2 with a 3.31 ERA in 18 games (15 starts). Brito has potential as a soft contact/control specialist mid rotation starter with his mid-90s fastball. But if his change, curveball and the cutter come along, than he could become more. He has the best control among Yankees farmhands. Like Vasquez, it would not surprise me if he’s called up in the 2023 season.
18. Estevan Florial*, OF, 25, MLB
The former top-100 prospect has found opportunities few and far between over the past three seasons (just 63 plate appearances), but is out of options so he can’t be sent to the minors without being exposed to waivers. He’s hit well at Triple-A hitting .283 with 15 home runs, 31 doubles and 39 steals in Scranton last season. He struggled in the plate discipline department with 140 strikeouts swinging with his aggressive approach. The raw talent is there, especially with his speed, power, and defense. I’m still a believer in the 25-year-old Florial, but he may need a change of scenery to get regular at bats and shine.
19. Alexander Vargas, SS, 21, Single-A
Vargas is a line drive type hitter who has a feel for the barrel from both sides of the plate, and puts the ball in play taking advantage of his speed on the base paths. He is very thin right now and has a good body to grow into some power. He hit just .203 in the FSL in 2022 with 27 stolen bases, 14 doubles and 8 home runs but had 123 strikeouts. I like Vargas and give him a chance to be an everyday regular and develop into a good player if things click.
Jonesing for live baseball? Here’s an at-bat that ends with a homer for #Yankees prospect Alexander Vargas: pic.twitter.com/T4a9GAZYhx
— Bryan Hoch (@BryanHoch) March 3, 2022
20. Trystan Vrieling, RHP, 22, Rookie (FCL)
The Yankees 3rd round pick in 2022, Vrieling throws a fastball in the low to mid 90s mph range. He mixes a slider in the low-to-mid 80s with short and tight break with big spin rates in the 2,500-2,800 rpm range. His curveball is an upper 70s to low 80s pitch which is his best swing-and-miss offering. He also features a mid 80s changeup. Vrieling has success with his fastball because he commands it to all four quadrants and it plays up that way. He’s 6′4″ with a starter’s build and weapons that working with the Yankees coaching will only improve, he has a very big ceiling.
21. Deivi Garcia*, RHP, 23, MLB
Garcia’s downfall has been stunning. He had an awful 2021 and he was awful again this past year. His delivery was messed up and he started throwing a bunch of mediocre sliders instead of his big-breaking hammer curveball that was just an average 75 mph when he threw it. His fastball velocity was just 91-95 mph while his 95s were out of the strike zone. Then a move to the bullpen has seemed to work and turned him around. As a reliever in 15.2 innings, he had a 4.60 ERA striking out 21 and walking 8. I expect him to be part of the bullpen moving forward. He racked up 42.2 big league innings over eight starts between 2020 and 2021 and I suspect he will off this list midseason. Spring Training will be huge for Garcia.
22. Brendan Beck, RHP, 24, DNP (Injured)
23. Justin Lange, RHP, 21, Rookie (FCL)
24. Anthony Garcia, 1B, 22, Single-A
25. Elijah Dunham, OF, 22, Double-A
26. Andres Chaparro, 3B/1B, 23, Double-A
27. Brock Selvidge, LHP, 21, Rookie (FCL)
28. Luis Serna, RHP, 18, Rookie (FCL)
29. Ron Marinaccio*, RHP, 27, MLB
30. Greg Weissert*, RHP, 27, MLB
31. Richard Fitts, RHP, 23, High-A
32. Sean Hermann, RHP, 19, Single-A
33. Juan Carela, RHP, 21, High-A
34. Enmanuel Tejeda, SS, 18, Rookie (DSL)
35. Carson Coleman, RHP, 24, Double-A
36. Matt Sauer, RHP, 24, Double-A
37. Tyler Hardman, 1B, 24, Double-A
Beck has the potential to pitch at the back of a rotation thanks to his arsenal, pitching acumen and body built to eat innings, and he should be a fast mover though the system once healthy. Lange, with his slightly unorthodox low-arm-slot delivery, has a huge ceiling but will need time to reach it. I think he gets moved to the bullpen. Garcia has gargantuan power from both sides of the plate and runs well for his size. If he cuts down on his strikeouts, he has legit 40+ home run potential. Chaparro broke out in a big way in 2022, leading Somerset 19 home runs. Triple A will be a huge test for Chaparro this upcoming season. Purchased from the Yucatan Lions of the Mexican league in 2021, Luis Serna has a solid four pitch mix a fastball, changeup, slider and curveball and has room to add velocity on his fastball. He throws strikes and gets a lot of ground ball contact. Fitts owns a low-to-mid 90s fastball he has success with up in the zone, a sharp slider and a good changeup. Carela is an interesting sleeper-type prospect, a long-range project who has a good body with some projectability and definitely has a shot, but he needs work. Tejeda hit .289 with 3 home runs and 6 doubles in the 2022 DSL. What was most impressive about Tejeda was his 7 triples, 11 steals and 41 walks to 25 strikeouts in only 46 games (188 at bats). Hardman, the Yankees’ 5th round pick in 2021, has power to all fields and a very patient approach. The South Athletic League All-Star scorched Arizona Fall League pitching, hitting .325 average, with 21 runs, 6 doubles, 1 triple, 6 HR, 15 RBI, 6 BB, 22 K, 1 SB, 1.035 OPS in 20 games.
Seeeeee yah! Tyler Hardman goes yard! #AFL22 @Yankees pic.twitter.com/JAAilP2yb4
— MLB’s Arizona Fall League (@MLBazFallLeague) November 2, 2022
38. Anthony Hall, OF, 22, Rookie (FCL)
39. Edgar Barclay, LHP, 24, High-A
40. Jack Neely, RHP, 22, High-A
41. Indigo Diaz, RHP, 24, Double-A (ATL)
42. Josh Breaux, C, 25, Triple-A
43. Agustin Ramirez, C, 21, Rookie (FCL)
44. Anthony Seigler, C, 23, High-A
45. Osiel Rodriguez, RHP, 21, Single-A
46. Brandon Lockridge, OF, 25, Double-A
47. Hans Montero, SS, 19, Rookie (DSL)
48. Jared Serna, 2B/SS/3B/OF, 21, Single-A
49. Eric Reyzelman, RHP, 21, Single-A
50. Ben Cowles, 2B/SS, 22, Single-A
For Neely, the walks are high (11.6%), but when you strike out over 40% of batters faced, that’s not an issue. With his mid-90s fastball, slider and curveball his stuff is up and coming and Neely is a strong candidate to be a fast riser as a reliever. The 6’5″ righty Diaz, acquired from the Braves for Lucas Luetge, is strictly a reliever that is armed with a mid 90s fastball and a very good slider. He could be a bullpen option as soon as this year. Ramirez is one of the names in this range I’m most excited about, with his compact swing and good power he could shoot up these rankings. Signed in the 2018 international class, Rodriguez varies his arm slot well and throws a good splitter in the low to mid 80s, a fastball that sits in the low to mid 90s and a slider. Montero projects to have above average tools across the board with a quality approach barreling the ball very well using his gap power making contact to all fields. Jared Serna signed from Mexico in 2019 has good plate discipline, barrels up balls well, and isn’t afraid to take the extra base with his hustle and speed. Reyzelman, who reminds me of former Yankees prospect Hayden Wesneski, owns a big fastball that reaches 99 and usually sits in the mid 90s. He’s a reliever right now but the Yankees can stretch him out.
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First off you acknowledge Volpe may be better suited for 2nd base but yet you say all his tools are above average. I haven’t seen one scouting grade of 55 on his arm. No one has called his arm above average.
You have Marinaccio down in tier 4. I mean I guess we don’t know for sure if last year was a fluke or not so you wanna keep him there sounds crazy but where it really makes zero sense is Deivi Garcia in Tier 3. In what world does that make sense. Your definition of tier 3 is average expectation to be a solid MLB contributor. Not even the most optimistic of Yankees fans can honestly say they feel that way about Garcia anymore.
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Hi Anthony. Volpe’s arm is plenty good I’ve seen him deep in the hole making great throws from short. Volpe has solid arm strength that is due to the quickness of his release, the consistency of his mechanics and accuracy of his throws. His good instincts and timing making him a great fielder. He can make all the throws required to play shortstop, Peraza’s defense is just better which may force a move to 2nd for Volpe. Volpe’s arm will be above average at 2nd for sure. Garcia has already covered tier 3 “Players with an average expectation of making the majors and being a solid contributor”. Garcia was very very solid in 2020! Marinaccio has been very solid as well but he’s strictly a bullpen piece so that falls into tier 4 Players “who have the potential of making the majors, or have a high likelihood of making the majors but providing minimal impact (e.g. middle reliever, low-ceiling UT guys).” I do believe that the Yankees have to and will give Garcia more of a chance to figure it out. Just 23 years old he has plenty of time. As I said in the article I expect both Garcia and Marinaccio to graduate off this list by midseason. Both players are very interchangeable both within 8 spots of one another and I expect both to be very successful.
i am familiar with all the top prospects you mentioned except for keiner delgado who i will know follow … a very intriguing prospect ..
personally, i hope the yankees hold on to volpe, jasson & spencer ..
i feel they are all stars in the making.. enjoyed your write ups … waiting for your mid season follow ups
Hey Fred. Thank you for writing! I also hope Volpe, J Dom and Jones become multiple time all stars! I personally love Delgado he has all the makings of a very good player. The speed and coming power are for real. I think he could end up on many top 100 prospect list in the next few years. The Altuve comps are great but I don’t see a way he stays in the middle infield since Volpe Peraza and others are young and have that covered. A move to the OF isn’t out of the question I believe or a trade.. He will be a fun one to watch with all his speed and abilities. The Mid Season Top 50 should be interesting with a lot of young prospects that could climb up the rankings and some older prospects could and should graduate off the list!
Where is RHP Nick Ernst? I thought this kid was MLB bound??
Hey Jim! Nick Ernst had a 4.37 ERA in relief while in double A as a 25 year old last year. He walked 35 and strike out 71 in 59.1 innings. I believe Ernst is an organizational guy that could see some big league time out of the pen for either the Yankees or another team but I don’t believe he he is a top 50 prospect for the Yankees. He is probably a top 50 prospect on other teams for sure. As a reliever it’s even harder to put him in the Yankees top 50 since they have many relievers that are top 50 worthy.
Hey Jim! Nick Ernst had a 4.37 ERA in relief while in double A as a 25 year old last year. He walked 35 and strike out 71 in 59.1 innings. I believe Ernst is an organizational guy that could see some big league time out of the pen for either the Yankees or another team but I don’t believe he is a top 50 prospect for the Yankees. He is probably a top 50 prospect on other teams for sure. As a reliever it’s even harder to put him in the Yankees top 50 since they have many relievers that are top 50 worthy.
Very nice breakdown.
I’m a little concerned that Drew Thorpe doesn’t look to be 6’4 in his videos and may just be what he is, a guy who doesn’t have a lot of projection with the heater .
Some of the myriad of other Yankee draft picks last season might actually have more upside, like his control, like his delivery but just don’t see enough heat there right now.
If he can pick up 2-3 mph on that slow pretty straight heater , maybe but that’s why if his height is exaggerated in this case it might actually be an issue.
He looks more Will Warren-ish sized to me.
Hey Larry thanks for reading! As I said in the article Thorpes fastball is only 89-93 mph and raises some concerns that it will be below average. But with some work it could come up to the low to mid 90s. He’s still young and needs some coaching to increase it I believe. He’s the perfect Matt Blake project. Even with a low 90s fastball it’s all about Thorpes off speed stuff. His 81-84 mph changeup is a plus-plus pitch and his 82-83 mph slider is very good already. Warren is 6’ 2 Thorpe 6’ 4 so even at Will Warren height that’s pretty good.